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sunnz (July 26, 2008 at 4:26 pm)
Heh yea I played around with it a bit before... however I think that has its limits as well, I mean, it probably just checks what's on your system against a list of popular blobs in a database... I mean, I could have made blob myself, there is no way to write a program to detect that!!
nnasby63 (July 26, 2008 at 4:04 pm)
you can get a program using apt-get called vrms it gives you a list of blobs if there are any on you system.
sunnz (July 26, 2008 at 3:52 pm)
So, what I was saying is that, gnewsense could still have a few blobs around, it could be we just don't know about it that it is deep in the kernel, or developers haven't got time to locate the blob yet... e.g. bug 00166:bugs.gnewsense . org/Bugs/00166OpenBSD on the other hand though, simply doesn't let blobs in the base system in the first place, so they don't have this problem of finding and removing blobs.
sunnz (July 26, 2008 at 3:49 pm)
"I don't know how to "find" binary blobs. I dont' know what they look like in the source, so I'm almost totally useless as to determining non-license freedom - Brian's Builder tools are very limited to the version of the kernel gNewSense uses and will have to be re-tooled to handle the newer versions that future versions will be built. Because of this, despite our PFV we're still not 100% sure that user's freedoms are fully protected."
sunnz (July 26, 2008 at 3:48 pm)
Ok, what I was trying to say was, while it is in gNewsense's best interest to remove all blobs, they were not able to do so 100%... for example, one of the messages from the gnewsense mailing list:lists.gnu . org/archive/html/gnewsense-users/2007-11/msg00042 . html
nnasby63 (July 26, 2008 at 12:49 pm)
and I can just take gnome off gnewsense if I wanted to and use it as a server, kinda like Ubuntu JEOS which in general is toards servers like BSD, so thats why I think it's somewhat BSD like but your right I was going to far, I should have just said curtain features are like BSD, not the whole, because I know about Linus Torvalds, the kernel is way different! I'm not trying to be mean or mean I'm always nice alot, these are just what I think, you a nice job :)
nnasby63 (July 26, 2008 at 12:43 pm)
you can read the quote:"According to Microsoft, 28% of all crashes of their Vista operating system in 2007 were due to bugs in the binary blob drivers for Nvidia graphics cards.[5]"
nnasby63 (July 26, 2008 at 12:36 pm)
gobuntu still has blobs, gnewsense started earlier, and they had all the blobs removed.It is BSD like because it is just as secure, most BSD say no to blobs like openBSD, but unlike BSD, GNU/Linux is unix-like, and BSD is true unix because it came directly from AT&T unix, anyway cool video! |
